Spray guns

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  • October 29, 2010 at 10:12 pm #24785

    Hey everyone, I’m new to the forum. I’ve got a question, I’m currently doing my third level in car body repair and paint operations, I’m thinking of buying my own spray guns, mainly for use on my own car but my teachers keep telling me, if I buy a spray gun, that I need to go with Devilbiss or I’m wasting my money, but when I looked at the Devilbiss guns, they are WAY out of my price league. I saw a set of cheaper guns and I’m just wondering if it’s actually worth me buying them or not?

    October 29, 2010 at 11:06 pm #24787

    [quote=”Orion Brian” post=14985]Hey everyone, I’m new to the forum. I’ve got a question, I’m currently doing my third level in car body repair and paint operations, I’m thinking of buying my own spray guns, mainly for use on my own car but my teachers keep telling me, if I buy a spray gun, that I need to go with Devilbiss or I’m wasting my money, but when I looked at the Devilbiss guns, they are WAY out of my price league. I saw a set of cheaper guns and I’m just wondering if it’s actually worth me buying them or not?[/quote]

    Hey there, Brian. I could see why he would recommend such a great tool, although pricy. I’m a newb at painting, but have learned that the paint and gun don’t make the painter or paint job. Granted, more expensive paint would last longer, but it’s really all in the prep work.

    I’m currently doing my first paint job with a $40 Harbor Freight gun and inexpensive Summit Racing paint, and it’s turning out very well. Here’s a link to the hvlp I’m using. These cheap Chinese guns do require quite a bit more air though to atomize the paint like pro gun would. A Devilbiss would run @ 25 psi, but this HF gun requires 40-45 psi to get the job done.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/high-volume-low-pressure-gravity-feed-spray-gun-66222.html

    Spraying away with the HF gun and the results.

    These results are after spraying two coats of clear, wet sanding flat with 600 grit, and following up with an over reduced coat of clear.

    [IMG]http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/black-v8-383-bug-3.jpg[/IMG]

    October 30, 2010 at 2:08 am #24790

    Aah right, thanks for the reply =)
    What do you think of these guns? will they do the trick

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HVLP-SET-0-8mm-1-4mm-1-7mm-GRAVITY-SPRAY-GUN-NEW-/120592230922?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item1c13db6a0a

    What kind of Air Compressor do you use? I noticed some compressors can cost more than double the price of the devilbiss guns.
    And of course safety comes first but I heard that if you spray a car outside, you won’t need an air fed mask? but I’m guessing that’s not true?

    October 30, 2010 at 2:51 am #24795

    Welcome to the site Brian.

    What guns have you used in the past, and what have you thought of them? What do you intend on spraying with them?

    Most people I know prefer either Sata or Iwata. I do like Devilbiss, but there seems to be few professionals (that I know) who use them on a regular basis. There are other decent brands as well, but those are probably the 3 biggest

    October 30, 2010 at 3:29 am #24799

    Thanks

    I’m not sure, I THINK they are Devilbiss GTI guns which I use at college, they work fine for me but I’ve never tried any other guns to compare them to. I’m just wanting some guns that are affordable that I can spray my own car with at home. I’ve done lot’s of spraying the past 2 years at college, but I haven’t been taught that much about the equipment, compressors, guns etc…

    October 30, 2010 at 3:40 am #24800

    u can get away with the cheap brands but ull probably end up doubling ur buffing time and material consumption. once i got a good gun i wanted to slap myself for not having one sooner

    October 30, 2010 at 3:56 am #24801

    [quote=”MoCoke” post=15000]u can get away with the cheap brands but ull probably end up doubling ur buffing time and material consumption. once i got a good gun i wanted to slap myself for not having one sooner[/quote]

    That is very true.

    I know they aren’t cheap, but it is worth spending the money. You’ve been at school that long and they haven’t taught you about guns/equipment? :huh:

    What exactly do you intend on painting (single stage urethane, solvent base, water base, polyurethanes, high solids clear, urethane primer, sealer…etc). These are all sprayed best with the appropriate gun/gun setup. There is no 1 gun that can spray everything well with only one aircap and needle/nozzle set.

    October 30, 2010 at 10:27 am #24820

    [quote=”Orion Brian” post=14985]Hey everyone, I’m new to the forum. I’ve got a question, I’m currently doing my third level in car body repair and paint operations, I’m thinking of buying my own spray guns, mainly for use on my own car but my teachers keep telling me, if I buy a spray gun, that I need to go with Devilbiss or I’m wasting my money, but when I looked at the Devilbiss guns, they are WAY out of my price league. I saw a set of cheaper guns and I’m just wondering if it’s actually worth me buying them or not?[/quote]
    Wow that is a cheaper gun…..actually middle ground.
    You will get good service support with Devilbiss.
    Buy a Plus Gun.
    It will last longer than HF.
    SATA is the best.

    October 30, 2010 at 1:11 pm #24822

    Hi Brian, I would suggest this one to start with. http://www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product.php?products_id=2102&oscsid=9t7258pq563o39nig42la6qbr2

    Dag

    November 22, 2010 at 3:46 pm #25433

    Thats some weird stuff your teachers are telling you. We have 3 devilbis gti pros at work, they are a very average gun to be honest. Our cheaper walco gun bases and clears alot nicer than our devil”s. if your a third year get yourself something decent, im only a first year and i have a Sata 3000b Foose ED for base and an Iwata LPH-400 for clear, It took me a long time to save for these guns but they are great.

    + would suggest jumping on ebay and getting the Sata 2000, a great gun and going cheap now days!

    December 12, 2010 at 10:23 pm #26117

    Sorry for being late to the conversation. I use to buy cheapo guns and didn’t think it made much difference. When I joined this board, I would marvel at how Bondo/Jimmo and the rest of the video stars would make it look easy. Then as I noticed that when spraying in my garage I would get fogged out even with three box fans going (I have a fresh air system…but still) there was more paint going into the filters than going on the car! On the suggestion of the boys here, I got an Iwata LPH-400 and couldn’t believe the difference. I can do things with that gun that I could never do with my old cheap guns. The Iwata came from a guy on eBay and was used once but not really cleaned. I got it for $270. Once apart for cleaning you could see why the guns are cheap. The Iwata is beautifully machined and the cheap gun looks like it was home made…even the blue “anodizing” washed off!

    The difference is how they atomize the paint – it’s what the expensive guns do so much better. I’ve done complete re-paints in my garage without any fog with the Iwata. I then bought a DeVilbiss FLG to handle heavy primers and have tossed everything else in the garbage. So much less time buffing and polishing.

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