Substitute for Sikkens 123 reducer….
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Hi everyone, I have had a bunch of left over Sikkens AutoBase MM colors and pearls from a bodyshop that closed its doors and have had a hard time finding the correct reducer for the AutoBase MM product.. If any of you have had experience with Sikkens products, please let me know if some other manufacturer like PPG or Dupont reducers can be substituted.. I know it is not recommended to do this type of thing and I am not gonna hold anybody to it, but I am just messing around with what I have to use it and not waste it..
This paint is used mainly for custom paint jobs or something that doesn’t require any certain color match or consistency..
Thanks in advance for any help
My email is : car-doctor@sbcglobal.net
Wow man you are bringing me back to the good old days,I sprayed quite a bit of that back in the day.I would suggest lesonal sb reducers, they are pretty close to the old 123 reducers,even utech 200 series reducers would work.
Hello, i don’t have anymore 123 reducer but i do have the generation after that. Autobase reducer+at agent. it replaced 123 for voc requirements. i think i have a gallon of slow and a half gallon of med. plus a gallon of at agent. You can have them….just pay for shipping,which won’t be cheap. plus i have hundreds of left over mixed colors. Autobase being polyester based i don’t know how good it will be for air brushing if you do any. Always seemed to suck for that purpose, because of the additives in the sikkens reducer. When you reduce real thin it always seemed to be sticky.With or without the at agent. Even days later.
yeah buddy im in the same spot as you pretty much i have a ton of Autobase and autobase +; tinters (have at least gallon and a half of Q140), mixed colors… i dont have any abp reducer either(ran out) but i have a ton of the autobase atomizing agent. seems like a waste not to use them, i substituted straight 140 for a straight black vehicle, as opposed to using 245 on autowave and it worked well? i love how clean solvent blacks go on, plus lot nicer to denib. have lots of older sikkens clears too, even have bunch of old dupont lucite!
Lesonal SB reducer or utech R200 reducers(can still buy the utech in canada 😉 ) and it works better than that atomizing crap :sick:
Thanks for replying.. I do not know as much about the Autobase as I do about Dupont or PPG paint.. What would this paint be considered?? Is it similar to an enamel or more like a laquer.. I usually use Nason base coat with urethane clear and I know that the base takes a reactive reducer and the clear takes a catalyst.. but have only been messing with the Sikkens stuff on and off. I know if I try to mix with laquer thinner.. the two don’t mix at all.. (like oil and water)..
Thanks again
Polyester basecoat 😉
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