SW HPC-15 clear
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[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]A little while ago we had a S&W demo at our shop. We’ve since signed a contract with basf but anyhow on the topic of that primer i just wanted to mention a problem they had. They called it squeegee primer as it was applied with one. It sounded like a great idea but they had a problem during the demo. It came out watery and just didn’t work, it was one of those awkward moments where they tried to talk their way out of it and blame a bad batch.I’ve been meaning to get some in to try for myself, is this the same stuff? what kind of feedback do ya get on it? I don’t know if this is the same stuff, they never said anything about waiting 5 minutes….or maybe that was their problem?[/quote]
Yup… that would be it. There are two versions – NP75 which you mix on your own (with the 5 minute wait), and NP75C, which is the cartridge version.
Yeah… if they had a problem with the NP75C coming out of the cartridge too watery, that would sound like they had a bad batch, or perhaps something happened to that particular tube (such as frozen, then thawed or exposed to extreme high temp, or…) … definitely a bummer to have something like that happen during a demo.
What else did they show you, and how did you like it?
[b]ding wrote:[/b]
[quote]Recoating the tank after sanding with 600 produced a nice smooth finish. I like the way it layed out. also sanded and buffed a few nibs and the ridge from the srtipe. got to it about 20 min after spraying. I used 2500 and it buffed out nice with my mini polisher and a foam pad using presta light compound. didn’t seem to leave any swirls nor did it leave scratches when wiping the residue off like a lot of fresh paints do.[/quote]Cool! I love it when that happens. I like that you’re trying different things with the product and comparing your results. It’s nice for me, when talking to potential customers (or existing customers about a new product), to have knowledge of real world user experiences. Thank you.
[b]jimmo wrote:[/b]
[quote]We really just decided to go with BASF because it was what we’d been using, it was familiar and they offered a competitive contract. Basf vs S&W you gonna find their both stronger and weaker in different areas, which will probably be true comparing any manufacturers. One of the most important things I’ve always found was color match. I know that BASF is very strong in that department which is probably another big factor. They have had the color chips that were actually sprayed out for quite a while, I see S&W just launched that which will definitely boost their line.I’ve haven’t really sprayed S&W too much, I’ve just heard from others their color matching isn’t near as strong as BASF’s but that’s how they found it. I’m sure theirs many satisfied S&W users that will argue that.[/quote]
Jimmo, right out of the gate I have to say I think it’s cool as hell that we had some conversations here and that resulted in your shop giving SW the opportunity to present & demo our products. I can honestly say it would have been even cooler if you had made the switch, but I understand and respect the decision to stick with BASF. Change is difficult, and BASF does make a great product.
This forum, and others like it, allow us – from all over the world – to discuss our industry and our craft, share information, learn from people we’d not normally have the opportunity to even meet, and, on occasion, to even do a bit of bragging on our accomplishments.
Thanking for taking the time to invite me here.
Speaking specifically with color match – my experience mirrors your very comment that each product has different strengths and weaknesses. Speaking to painters using other paint lines, the most common thing I hear is that a given line seems to have issues in a certain color area. One painter I talked to had some issue with blacks in another paint line. Others talked about specific paint codes they have or had issues with in a competing paint line. One would hope these would not be constant, but rather change as each issue is identified.
One area, among many, in which I am very proud of Sherwin-Williams is the progress we have made these past few years, in identifying specific issues, and addressing them. We have come a very long way from the products bearing our label in the early 1990’s. I think the fact that you were impressed enough with the HPC15 to be compelled to look at the entire paint line speaks to that.
I sincerely appreciate that you gave us the opportunity to demo our products. Thank you.
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