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  • November 2, 2009 at 3:13 am #16726

    Is there a textbook you guys would recommend to have that would help explain some of the basics and intermediate processes in autobody repair? I have found several by James Duffy. Any other suggestions?

    Thanks!

    November 2, 2009 at 4:50 am #16727

    It would be nice if some how this trade/art was text book , but it’s no where close.

    this art is unlike any other trade , as it’s like snowflakes , No two are the same.

    (big bucks as a result)

    feel it and live it , or talk to those that do. :pcorn:

    I know of no such book :kofee

    try http://www.refinishnetwork.com

    November 2, 2009 at 4:58 am #16728

    I do understand the complexities of what you guys do daily and that experience is the best teacher. I was looking at this book as a way to get the basics of what is involved to create a foundation.

    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Auto-Body-Repair-Technology-Fifth-Edition/James-E-Duffy/e/9781418073534

    November 2, 2009 at 5:31 am #16729

    I have ready some of duffy’s books. they are about as good as you are going to find in a book. go to the book store and check in the automotive section. they have all sorts of how to books.

    November 2, 2009 at 8:43 pm #16734

    There’s always more than one way to skin a Cat Lots of wrong ways too.

    The following is from SPI
    http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/perfect%20paint.htm

    The Perfect Paint Job
    December 2008

    Our goal is to accomplish a paint job that with a strong foundation, with a maximum
    gloss that will last for many years. This type of painting is not practical for the
    everyday production body shop but will serve you well when you do a restoration or a
    street rod job. We are going with the assumption that the metal, or fiberglass has been
    stripped of all paint.

    All bare metals and aluminum should have 80 grit DA scratches.

    Bare metal is always best cleaned with #700-1 waterborne wax and grease remover then
    let it sit 30-6o minutes before applying epoxy!

    After first reading our Epoxy Tech Sheet, mix enough #6600 series epoxy to spray two
    wet coats over the entire car. Spray one wet coat and let flash about 30 minutes, then
    apply a second wet coat. Let the epoxy set overnight and then apply body, or fiberglass
    filler and glazing putty over the epoxy. It is not necessary to sand the epoxy before
    applying the fillers, as they will bite into the epoxy, and feather great. When you have
    finished sanding all of the bodywork, you are likely to have some bare metal spots from
    sanding. Spray one wet coat of epoxy over all filler spots and over any bare metal spots.
    Let the vehicle set overnight.

    The next day, you can start spraying the 2K primer over the epoxy. Once again, it is not
    necessary to scuff or sand the epoxy before applying primer. The most important
    thing to remember at this point, is spray one wet coat of primer, and let it set for 30
    minutes before applying the second coat. Follow this procedure between coats of primer.
    This step, when abused, messes up more paint finishes than anything else!

    When all of the primer blocking and any necessary primer repairs have been done, it is
    always best to use the epoxy as a sealer. Mix up enough epoxy to go around the car with
    one wet coat, adding a double shot glass of SPI #885 urethane reducer, per quart. Let the
    epoxy set for 30 minutes. Stir one more time, and strain. Spray one full wet coat of epoxy
    over the entire car. The epoxy should set for 24 hours, then wet sand as needed, with
    600-800 grit paper and then you are ready to base.

    Next to rushing the 2K primer, rushing the base coat is the second cause for the final gloss
    and depth of a paint job to look bad. It is very important use the slowest urethane reducer
    in your base that you can get away with, no matter what the outside temperature is. Just
    allow enough extra time for the base coat to flash and dry. The difference between a very
    slow grade and medium grade reducer will show up in the final gloss. The slower grade
    also has better solvency and will give you far better adhesion. Spray the first coat, and let
    it totally dry, before spraying the second coat. It is best to wait 45 minutes between
    coats.

    Option if base coat isn’t perfect:
    After two coats, the vehicle should set overnight, then do minor wet sanding with 1500
    grit sandpaper to remove any orange peel or trash. Apply the next two coats with 45
    minutes of flash time in between. Some colors require additional coats. If this is the
    case, again, wait 45 minutes between coats. Let the base coat set overnight.

    Tack off the next day, apply a wet coat of SPI-Universal, SPI-MS or SPI-HS Clear, and
    let the clear flash as needed. Let the first coat of clear set 30 minutes.

    Spray the second wet coat of clear, let it set 30 minutes, then spray the third coat of clear.

    From two days to two weeks after the job has been completed, wet sand the clear with
    400-800 grit sandpaper, blocking out any orange peel or dirt. After wet sanding, let the
    car set in sun for a day then apply a wet coat of clear. Let the clear flash 30 minutes.
    Apply a second coat of clear, then 30 minutes later come back with a third coat of clear.

    Let the vehicle set two or three days in the sun to help to get all of the solvents out and
    settle the paint job. If any wet sanding is required before buffing, sand with 1500 grit
    sandpaper, then set the vehicle in sun for two to three hours. Bring the car back into the
    shop, and allow it cool to room temperature, then buff.

    If you follow these directions, you will have a durable paint job, with maximum depth
    and gloss over a solid foundation, which will last for many years to come.

    November 3, 2009 at 2:18 am #16741

    Do you see that as a right or wrong way to skin that cat?

    November 4, 2009 at 7:26 am #16767

    I’ve read a lot of books available in my college library during my free time, I learned a LOT MORE reading forums/threads in autobody sites than the text books.

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