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I’m having no luck finding a color in EHP for GM code MM it’s a 65-67 Royal Plum Poly. The PPG color library hooked me up with a European Ford formula that was suppose to work but it isn’t even close in the light. If I can find a standard in a different waterborne system I’ll have no qualms with ordering from a local jobber (if i can find one). If any one can look into this for me it’d be appreciated.
IS IT THIS ONE ? GM MILANO MAROON MET Code: MM WA3365 1965 – 1965 MAIN BODY
I’m not seeing much in Sikkens Dillon. I have a colormap number, but even under that the options are very limited as to what can be mixed in water. Example the one formula that crosses has a zyrillac pearl in it. Im not thinking they used that in the 60’s :blink:
I found it in Nason low voc solvent base, which you should have there. Dupont has it in their solvent but not available in Canada. Not sure how much I would want to use nason low voc solvent but its available.
That’s what I figured would happen. The European formula that PPG hooked me up with had green, white, and blue pearl. And it’s a metallic color from the 60’s :blink:. I removed the pearls leaving only a little white, and added a medium metallic and it’s actually not too bad. I think I might be able to use this as a starting point to building a blend able match.
is it still in production, i mean the color, i know sometimes ppg will discontiue certian formulas. in the past i’ve had to have the store come out and take pictures.
Did you phone the ppg color lab? I have done this quite a bit with Sikkens,they will do a lab match for me with older colors(muscle car)with great results,depending on how much time you have?
+1, for got about the color lab. dc they should be able to hook you up. at least get your jober to call them for you, that’s what you pay them for.
I did call the color lab, that’s where I got the this Ford Europe formula.
GM MILANO MAROON MET Code: MM WA3365 1965 – 1965 MAIN BODY
Paint Line: ONYX-HDFormula 1 of 1 Print DYMO Label Variant List Modify Search
MFG Code Std# NAME STOCK # Year VEH. PART
GM MM WA3365 MILANO MAROON MET WH166625 1965-1965 MBModify Formula Formula Amount QUART GALLON PINT LITER
Var/XRF: Standard
Rev Date: 13-JAN-10 VOC: 3.47 LB/GAL Step: 1 Print Download
Base Base Name Grams Cum. Grams
HB002 HYDRO BASE 624.8 624.8
HB861 MAROON 122.1 746.9
HB840 RED 83.0 829.9
HB880 RED VIOLET 80.1 910.0
HB250 BLACK 20.9 930.9
HB130 FINE ALUMINUM 10.5 941.4
HB110 ULTRA FINE ALUMINUM 5.7 947.1Comments:
US Price Suffix: B
3.5 VOC
Lead Free
CAN Price Suffix: ZThat might be your formula, Id give your local BASF jobber a call, this is a Onyx formula (R-M water)
here is the code listed above in enviro wa3365 assumeing this the color u want…..milano red @ 1 quart
T448 Russet 751.4 751.4 704.1 67.74
T435 SALMON RED 132.7 884.1 124.3 11.96
T409 DEEP BLACK 66.3 950.4 62.1 5.97
T447 BRIGHT RED 35.4 985.8 33.2 3.19
T433 ORANGE 35.4 1021.2 33.2 3.19
T473 MED METALLIC 26.6 1047.8 24.9 2.40
T445 MAGENTA 22.0 1069.8 20.6 1.98
T471 EX. FINE MET 22.0 1091.8 20.6 1.98
T402 WEAK WHITE 17.6 1109.4here is one dc that has several different blue names includeing royal blue. codr===wa3302—–1965-66
Source Type Manufacturer Color Paint System/Variant
Motor Manufacturers GM (N AMERICA) E, EE, WA3302 / 13002 – DANUBE BLUE POLY, NIDNIGHT BLUE POLY, NIGHTWATH BLUE POLY, ROYAL MIST POLY EHP METALLIC – PRIMERevision Date Reason for Revision Notes
0 5/7/2010 <>Finish Effect : Mica
@1qt. formula
Code Description — Cum.
T412 TRANS BLUE — 437.1
T468 VIOLET PRL — 692.9
T407 JET BLACK — 897.6
T430 HS TRANSP. GREEN — 981.3
T456 BLUE PEARL — 1046.4
T473 MED METALLIC — 1069.7
T491 MATT BASE — 1083.7
T402 WEAK WHITE — 1088.4I’m going to take this EHP formula I have and remove the pearls, add metallic, and tint accordingly. I’ll let you know how it turns out
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