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  • Jayson Munro
    January 6, 2012 at 7:46 am #35140

    Actually single stage Ford UA beats base coat clear coat black any day of the week :clappy If you are ambitious you could wetsand your single stage black with 600 and apply 2 coats of clear to that….very impressive end result.

    [cb]
    January 6, 2012 at 9:00 am #35142

    Good day friends,

    I can’t make free shipping, all I can suggest is to contact TNT/DHL/UPS manager in your country and ask some cheap shipping, discounts. The manager will contact their representatives in my country (Latvia), so I could load some liters of paint for you. :rock

    [cb]
    January 8, 2012 at 3:15 am #35171

    :weights

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    brandon dingwell
    January 8, 2012 at 3:48 am #35172

    :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

    [IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/paintbyding/MVC-062F.jpg[/IMG]

    [cb]
    January 8, 2012 at 4:23 am #35173

    Good work, I like the clear! :woohoo: :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :rofl

    steve
    January 13, 2012 at 8:09 pm #35263

    Newbie Here! Looking to repaint a 1970 EL Camino SS….Black
    Here’s what I’ve been told on the black in PPG (DBC)…please correct me…I need your expert advise! Trying to attain a Blue Black- in BC/CC …deep,rich,dark…with the same in the flop.
    PPG 8555
    PPG 9700
    PPG 9300
    PPG 95526 (mercedes)
    Your input will be deeply appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don Wedor
    January 13, 2012 at 9:03 pm #35265

    [quote=”waterwalker” post=24619]Newbie Here! Looking to repaint a 1970 EL Camino SS….Black
    Here’s what I’ve been told on the black in PPG (DBC)…please correct me…I need your expert advise! Trying to attain a Blue Black- in BC/CC …deep,rich,dark…with the same in the flop.
    PPG 8555
    PPG 9700
    PPG 9300
    PPG 95526 (mercedes)
    Your input will be deeply appreciated!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    8555 has Yellow,Blue and Red added to the DMD1683 Black toner

    9300,9700,9850…..the list goes on are all the exact same just straight DMD1683 Black toner

    95526 has Yellow and Red added to the DMD1683 Black toner

    Jayson Munro
    January 14, 2012 at 7:40 pm #35284

    Are you sure about 9300 and 9700 Don?? When I was doing a project for a friend a few years ago he was working in a ppg jobber store and supplied the materials.The rep explained to us that 9300 was a bluer black to match dodge and ford colors,and the 9700 was a browner black to match gm wa 8555.I did sprayouts of both and found the concept 9300 to be the darkest cleanest of the 2…just sayin 😛

    Don Wedor
    January 14, 2012 at 8:39 pm #35285

    the WA8555 is PPG# 9835

    9300
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMD1683 BLACK 486.2 486.2 911.2 100.00

    9700
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMD1683 BLACK 486.2 486.2 911.2 100.00

    ford codes same color 12, 2N, 4ASAWWA, A, HV, M6018A, M6373A, M6877A, NN, UA, UAWA, UAWAWHA, UAWAXWA, UB, UD, YD / 9517 – BLACK
    1C, 4ASAWWA, 632, A, A6, HB, JASAXXA, JASAXXX, M1724A, M1724X, M30J1724, OA / 9300 – BLACK, BLACK AIR FOIL, BRILLIANT BLACK

    Chrysler codes same color 13, AC10813, AY110DX8, AY95DX8, DT4014, DX8, FX6, FX8 / 9517 – BLACK

    the list goes on and on all just straight DMD1683

    woops here is DCC

    9700
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMC921 JET BLACK 524.1 524.1 982.2 98.13
    DMC934 VIOLET 10.0 534.1 18.8 1.87

    9300
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMC921 JET BLACK 533.0 533.0 998.9 99.80
    DMC934 VIOLET 1.1 534.1 2 0.20

    these are slightly different
    as you can see

    now for the WA8555

    DCC

    9835
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMC921 JET BLACK 408.0 408.0 764.6 76.14
    DMC902 BLACK 111.1 519.1 208.3 20.75
    DMC908 YELLOW 10.0 529.1 18.7 1.87
    DMC904 BLUE 5.5 534.6 10.4 1.03
    DMC929 LIGHT RED 1.1 535.7 2.1 0.21

    DBC

    9835
    Code Description Abs. Cum. Grams Parts
    DMD1683 BLACK 435.4 435.4 816 88.92
    DMD642 YELLOW 13.7 449.1 25.6 2.79
    DMD646 WEAK WHITE 10.7 459.8 20 2.18
    DMD1602 GS YELLOW 2.1 461.9 4 0.44
    DMD1675 BLUE 2.1 464.0 4 0.44
    DBX1689 CLEAR 25.6 489.6 48 5.23

    Jayson Munro
    January 14, 2012 at 10:29 pm #35289

    Thats interesting Don but I have limited knowledge of ppg toners and what they do(but the 9300 and 9700 formulas look identical :blink:),but i can tell you that the 9700 is browner looking than the 9300 concept factory packs.Wa8555 is also browner looking than ford UA,I usually just go with the ford color or the bluer variant of ford UA,base clear black always looks a little milky compared to single stage IMO.

    Don Wedor
    January 14, 2012 at 11:08 pm #35290

    ya I don’t know if the factory packs follow the same formula or not

    brandon dingwell
    January 15, 2012 at 1:53 am #35293

    I would imagine the dcc factory packs would follow the prime formulas. 9700 has 10% more violet than 9300 does. but 9300 has 1 variant as well. that one just has jet black and black for toners in it.

    [cb]
    January 15, 2012 at 2:26 am #35295

    Hello from my friends in Russia :weights

    [img]http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1112/38/a9862222b4ff.jpg[/img]

    brandon dingwell
    January 15, 2012 at 5:59 am #35300

    [quote=”[cb]” post=24651]Hello from my friends in Russia :weights

    [img]http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1112/38/a9862222b4ff.jpg[/img][/quote]
    sorry but what the hell does this have to do with anything. contribute something worth wild or dont contribute at all

    Scott
    January 15, 2012 at 6:46 pm #35306

    :rofl :rofl :rofl

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