whats all the buzz on optima paint guns?

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  • January 10, 2013 at 6:08 am #40257

    I hear this is the gun to have for clear coats. optima 900l lvlp. does my sata 4000rp need a for sale sign????

    January 10, 2013 at 6:13 am #40258

    [quote=”thekansaskid” post=29242]I hear this is the gun to have for clear coats. optima 900l lvlp. does my sata 4000rp need a for sale sign????[/quote]

    I didnt hear any buzz …….

    January 10, 2013 at 7:37 pm #40271

    [quote=”thekansaskid” post=29242]I hear this is the gun to have for clear coats. optima 900l lvlp. does my sata 4000rp need a for sale sign????[/quote]

    I havent even heard of that gun before :blink:
    I thought the Sagola was now King for clear :rofl :rofl :rofl

    January 11, 2013 at 7:06 am #40282

    the 900i is the compliant version of the 900 series the LVLP is simply the 900 the 900 is blue the 900i is gunmetal grey

    its what i use and when i sold one of two i got off ebay BNIB for £50 each as no one bidded against me becouse basicly the name isnt well known, the guy i sold it too hung up his Sata 3000 RP and hasnt used it since for his clear jobs ,he now bases with it lol

    made by Bersch and Fratscher Germany and voted worlds no 1 clearcoating gun by a European magazine ,have to say i agrea haveing used Sagola 3300 and 4400 models amongst many others inc 2000 and 3000 RP,s it even bettered my Walcom FX HA

    now superceded by the Trifity model which will convert from LVLP to compliant simply by swopping out the aircap you no longer need to buy two separate guns if you dont wish to

    downside the pots are flimsy and the seal on the lid breaks away so after a while they leak ,the lids are even worse than sata in that respect however i have found a solution and now use a spuriuos pot instead ,overall build quality is superior to Sata ,no plastic nobs to break and wear loose and a much nicer air micrometer
    price i think is cheaper than Sata but to be honest Sata are not the guns i would choose and are IMO way over priced

    anyway the Optima 900i is definatly the finest clearcoating gun i have owned and i have owned many guns

    January 11, 2013 at 7:28 am #40283

    January 11, 2013 at 7:43 am #40284

    January 11, 2013 at 11:21 pm #40297

    do they use much cfm?

    January 12, 2013 at 12:37 am #40299

    well i suppose it depends on the model ,an LVLP set up by its name sugests it uses low volumes however even the compliant versions of most guns are usualy around 11.5 CFM ,i may have my original documentation knocking around for my 900i ,if so ile check what it says

    January 12, 2013 at 12:58 am #40300

    found this for the 900 LVLP

    Optima 900L LVLP Spray Gun (Gravity Feed)
    Item No.: 900 L / SG3213
    Technical Information:

    Nozzle: 1.4mm
    Atomization Technique: LVLV (Low Volume Low Pressure)
    Transfer Efficiency: >70% (acc. to VOC – regulation)
    Air inlet pressure (opt.): 2.0-2.5 bar
    [b][color=#ff0000]Air consumption: 215 l/min
    [/color][/b]Cup Capacity: 600ml
    Weight (without cup): 530g

    January 12, 2013 at 10:40 pm #40318

    thanks, where can they be bought in europe, was googling and all that came up was us sites

    January 13, 2013 at 2:17 am #40319

    the only seller i know of is ESKRA UK ,im sure an email to Bersch and Fratscher would deliver some results ,when i got my Optima it was actualy a rebrand for Rupes and i know they are also sold as WIWA guns

    April 11, 2013 at 2:35 pm #42765

    We[quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=29304]the only seller i know of is ESKRA UK ,im sure an email to Bersch and Fratscher would deliver some results ,when i got my Optima it was actualy a rebrand for Rupes and i know they are also sold as WIWA guns[/quote]

    Hey Paul have you used the latest optima trifity at all? I noticed what looks like the new optima being sold in the UK under the name Nordson trilogy is that the same gun? Looks identical to me but different name, can get them at good prices. :pcorn:

    April 15, 2013 at 3:09 am #42815

    not used one myself and yes it looks to be the same gun they do rebrand for other companies ,let me know what price you gat them i may be interested in one myself

    April 15, 2013 at 3:22 am #42816

    i found them at sprayguns direct £199 plus VAT

    April 16, 2013 at 2:46 pm #42824

    [quote=”ARTSPRAY” post=31652]i found them at sprayguns direct £199 plus VAT[/quote]
    Yeah that’s were I seen them myself, i did ask the question and this is what I received from spray guns direct:
    > Yes as we discussed Nordson are a partner of Befrag a German gun
    > manufacturer who sell their guns in Germany under the Optima name
    >
    > The trilogy range have some features unique to this product
    >
    > Interestingly in Germany we have sold many of these guns to date even though
    > the Optima gun is fully available there
    >
    > I think you will also find the Optima range price is much lees attractive
    > then the Trilogy guns offered

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