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  • January 14, 2013 at 7:08 am #40371

    We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.

    January 14, 2013 at 9:12 am #40375

    [quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?

    January 15, 2013 at 2:43 am #40385

    I spray my base using a Devilbiss GTi Pro with a 1.3 and T1 transtech cap @ 23-25psi, with a 60-70% overlap at about 6-7″ spray distance.

    When laying down silver, I activate the base, always use a slow reducer and reduce at 1:1 or just under (I never over-reduce base coat). If you need to speed things up you can use a fast reducer on the ground coats, but use the slow for your top coats. Also, when using a slow reducer, make sure you allow a longer flash off period. I also make sure one of the coats is a cross-coat to the main spray direction (helps to minimise banding).

    With any lighter metallic, I do lay down a lighter final coat at reduced air pressure (15-17psi) and twice the spray distance. But the trick to avoiding a dry surface as mentioned earlier is to apply this final coat when the previous coat you put down has developed that not quite dry ‘eggshell peel’ appearance (don’t wait for that previous coat to completely flash off). It will look weird when you initially lay it down and you’ll think you’ve done something wrong, but walk away and leave it, and when you come back to it after it’s dried, things will look fine!

    Hope this helps.

    January 15, 2013 at 4:21 am #40386

    [quote=”ScottB” post=29360][quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?[/quote]
    Because its not required its an option. Plus your puting base coat on top of base coat, the mid uses the same binder as the ground coat. I never had a problem with the tri coats. But now i said that…….. 😆 😆

    January 15, 2013 at 5:11 am #40387

    [quote=”lild” post=29371][quote=”ScottB” post=29360][quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?[/quote]
    Because its not required its an option. Plus your puting base coat on top of base coat, the mid uses the same binder as the ground coat. I never had a problem with the tri coats. But now i said that…….. 😆 :lol:[/quote]

    Tech sheet says required on all tricoats (in the ground and mid coat.) 😛
    Its required due to the increased film build. makes it a stronger more stable due to it being crosslinked as opposed to a thick layer of uncatylised paint 😉

    January 15, 2013 at 5:31 am #40388

    [quote=”ding” post=29372][quote=”lild” post=29371][quote=”ScottB” post=29360][quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?[/quote]
    Because its not required its an option. Plus your puting base coat on top of base coat, the mid uses the same binder as the ground coat. I never had a problem with the tri coats. But now i said that…….. 😆 :lol:[/quote]

    Tech sheet says required on all tricoats (in the ground and mid coat.) 😛
    Its required due to the increased film build. makes it a stronger more stable due to it being crosslinked as opposed to a thick layer of uncatylised paint ;)[/quote]

    Jeez, not this shit again! :p

    January 15, 2013 at 8:07 am #40389

    [quote=”ryan999″ post=29373][quote=”ding” post=29372][quote=”lild” post=29371][quote=”ScottB” post=29360][quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?[/quote]
    Because its not required its an option. Plus your puting base coat on top of base coat, the mid uses the same binder as the ground coat. I never had a problem with the tri coats. But now i said that…….. 😆 :lol:[/quote]

    Tech sheet says required on all tricoats (in the ground and mid coat.) 😛
    Its required due to the increased film build. makes it a stronger more stable due to it being crosslinked as opposed to a thick layer of uncatylised paint ;)[/quote]

    Jeez, not this shit again! :p[/quote]oh yeah, its on.

    January 15, 2013 at 8:10 am #40390

    [quote=”ding” post=29372][quote=”lild” post=29371][quote=”ScottB” post=29360][quote=”lild” post=29356]We don’t use 9700 black any more, & I don’t add any thing in the tri coats other then reducer.

    I will tell u that the tri’s that use the prlx pearls will take 4 coats of mid.[/quote]
    Why don’t you use BC activator in PPG tricoats?[/quote]
    Because its not required its an option. Plus your puting base coat on top of base coat, the mid uses the same binder as the ground coat. I never had a problem with the tri coats. But now i said that…….. 😆 :lol:[/quote]

    Tech sheet says required on all tricoats (in the ground and mid coat.) 😛
    Its required due to the increased film build. makes it a stronger more stable due to it being crosslinked as opposed to a thick layer of uncatylised paint ;)[/quote]i’ll have
    E to look thAt up on the computer. On the lil instruction line it gives a pg # to look up on reduceing, never mentions using a dx57. Just to reduce it 1:1

    January 15, 2013 at 4:33 pm #40392

    You got that link saved in a file? 😆 😆

    January 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm #40393

    [quote=”jeremyb” post=29377]You got that link saved in a file? 😆 :lol:[/quote]

    :p :p :p
    well I figured he didnt read it when I posted it on page 2 so…… :lol1 :lol1

    January 16, 2013 at 5:39 am #40395

    After looking it upnthe said matter, it appears ding is correct. Of corse it wasnt in the big or in a side note under of dx57 option part, no its in real small fine print, had tomzoom in 200x to see.c :huh: & i see it was rquired in tri coats. Go figure, 12+ yrs of painting & no one has ever told me, not the rep, jobber, or the training center. So i just got skool’d by the dinger,
    :blush:

    But i was talking about enviro, which has no activator. :unsure: :whistle:

    January 16, 2013 at 7:27 am #40396

    [quote=”lild” post=29380]

    But i was talking about enviro, which has no activator. :unsure: :whistle:[/quote]

    https://buyat.ppg.com/refinishProductCatalog/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=1985e815-818d-4840-bbd7-96295b514237
    :p :p

    January 16, 2013 at 7:55 am #40397

    But its not required, that i know for sure!

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