brandon dingwell
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- November 15, 2013 at 6:02 am #45424
[quote=”Snipe Hunter” post=34011]You read an awful into what I’ve said. I said I can’t use bulldog because it reacts with the aquabase. Does that sound like I’m using bulldog to you? I said I liked spraying onyx because it acts more like the solvent base that I’m used to and dries faster. So what? I like a big porter house steak too but I had chicken for dinner. No contradiction. I installed the Aquabase after reviewing just about everything available to me that meets Maryland’s low Voc rule and it’s got better support in my area than Onyx. I like it’s color matches and the way it blends. Probably the best I’ve seen. I’m disappointed in it’s drying time and coverage and I can’t use some techniques that I’m accustom to. I was lead to believe it had superior coverage.. it’s right there on PPGs site. I don’t feel that it’s coverage is any better than anything else I have used. It that ok with you? I work out of two locations, there is a PPG rep close to both. The closest Onyx rep is 20 miles from either site.
When I form my opinions, I don’t really consider how you will feel about it. I can argue with you all day long, I’m pretty good at it. I’ve got some good suggestions here and I intend to stick around and learn something. I don’t mind butting heads with you. If I thought I knew everything, I wouldn’t be on a public refinishing forum. But you probably already knew that.[/quote]
ya you said you stopped using bulldog because it reacts with the aquabase, but you also said you’ll try the waterbased bulldog. dont ever remember reading a PPG/Nexa tech sheet that recommended bulldog.
You say you reviewed everything avail to you regarding compliant paint systems before choose aquabase. does that mean you read all the marketing info and listened to all the sales pitches or you actually demoed the products to see which ones worked best for you. I’m guessing you didnt demo much since you are disappointed you cant use techniques you were accustom to and that you were sold on the superior coverage just because PPG’s web site said so.
Bottom line is you are not using the product correctly yet are saying that it blows. it’s like not putting enough oil in your motor then saying it sucks because it knockshere is a link that might help you out
https://buyat.ppg.com/refinishProductCatalog/ViewProductListing.aspx?BrandID=d3a4b6f0-2a6c-43f2-bbdf-131ac6461175November 14, 2013 at 5:57 pm #45416you contradict yourself with every post. you want fast but dont want to learn new proper prep procedures sticking with your old slow ways. You dont care about cost but use 1K primer and Bulldog. You’ve sprayed Onyx and liked it but put a Nexa system in. You went to an application course but still dont know how to use the product properly.
November 14, 2013 at 3:30 am #45399[quote=”Snipe Hunter” post=33986] I don’t really think the Aquabase is a “high dollar” system compared to other low VOC alternatives. It is certainly more expensive than Diamont and less expensive than Envirobase. As for “hiding or filling scratches with base”… I don’t think I said that. I think I said hiding scratches with primer and bulldog on plastic parts. PPG says to sand to 800 wet for Aquabase. I do that for high metalics, I can get away with 600 for solids colors.
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Envirobase and Aquabase are the same stuff. PPG bought Nexa(ICI) for their waterborne technology.
Why are you still wetsanding?. 600 on a da and a grey scuff pad will be faster and you wont have sand scratches showingNovember 7, 2013 at 3:46 pm #45330There was an article in the latest profit newsletter about the mclaren super car and it made a mention if the new auto wave that Akzo formulated and they were using on that car
November 5, 2013 at 2:14 am #45297[quote=”Painterman1″ post=33888]They have had the same jobber since before I started and I’ve tried everything I can think of to get them out but they have a good relationship but I’ve even caught them not give us our discount and all my boss said was they will make up for it they r goin through a rough time and I said they shouldn’t make us pay for they bad business but they stayed with them anyway[/quote]
Bet your boss is getting a kickback :pcorn:November 1, 2013 at 4:33 am #45167LOL.
Where abouts are you located.
Funny how they always say that same Line of BSOctober 25, 2013 at 6:00 pm #45096Looks good. Hope you have some more tints hiding somewhere :whistle:
They’ll probably set you up with the DAS primers and sealers, which arent a bad product for everyday work.
2042 can be a little yellow at times. dc3000 and 4000 are probably gonna be your work horse clears. but as jay said 2021 is a nice overall clear and can be speed up with some acceleratorOctober 25, 2013 at 6:27 am #45084If it’s not your shop then how are you loosing money on the materials
October 22, 2013 at 5:26 pm #45056When I used 55 line the color matches on stuff was pretty good overall. Matched newer stuff better than the older cars. older(8-10 years) American car color matches were pretty bad. They didnt always match the color max chips, but 75% of colors were blendable.
If you do some research you’ll find BASF waters arent the greatest. There are plenty of people that make it work, but if it was so great there would be no reason for the company to try and play with low voc solvent.October 22, 2013 at 6:23 am #45039[quote=”hating-painting” post=33685]I think GM recently changed their primer . The primer seems rock hard and does not sand/scuff real well.
I am using a DA with 400 then going over that with 600 DA and a red scuff pad.[/quote]It’s been that way for years
October 22, 2013 at 6:09 am #45036But just think of the time you are saving by finishing off in 600 and not having to seal a new part :whistle:
October 22, 2013 at 5:35 am #45025So are they OE or Aftermarket. Does the primer come off with a solvent wash or is it properly adhered the the plastic.
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