Samuel Rivera
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Yes I used both. I must say if you used the clears and undercoats and were happy with them then dialing the basecoat in is no issue at all. Is your shop one to push the evelope with color? panel paint more often than you should?
Well, I must say this is a good topic as i can chime in. I switched to Sherwin Williams AWX from Autowave. The way we came to the decision was by putting them side by side in a line trial.We had both in house for 30 days. It all came down to production and who brought more to the table. We started looking for another paint supplier because the Sikkenz rep and jopper started dropping the ball. All fluff and no support. They were always there at the beggining and gracefully faded away. Not returning phone calls and just brushing us off. But thats another subject. Ok when the sherwin guys first came in a thought they were going to pick a code pop a lid and shoot. I was wrong there tech rep refused to. He wanted to come in and do a full shop assessment. Measure air flow in the booth during paint cycle bake and dehydration cycle. They also checked the airline humidity, compressor, piping size and air filtration. He also looked at our proccesses and procedures along with how Autowave was performing. He returned about a week later and met with the shop manager and owner for about an hr and a half. I didnt sit in on the meeting because the cars werent going to spray themselves. The manager came out and said they we had to look at there stuff and by that point i was intrested to because the bm wasnt easy to impress. When the set up he pulled out some tools and changed a 5 ft pipe in our airlines. He said it was too small and restriced the airlines tremendously. When we started spraying product we started with the primer. P30A its a preflexed 4:1:1 primer that sprayed like a heavy basecoat and dried shinny. The bodymen were flipping out. We were able to identify how good the bodywork was in advance. This primer dry sands The best also. Doesnt clog the paper and the best part is it dries in 45 minutes air dry and 10 minutes with a heat lamp. There is another ratio for a speed dry wich is 15 minutes air dry. P30 is also a sealer just add one more ingredient and you have a sealer with a 2 hr recoat window. When we started spraying AWX i was impressed as to the way the tech rep explained what the paint was doing and it did just that. The car was 737m honda color and I was trying to get it to look bad but i couldnt. 2 coats later we hit it with an orientation coat and we mixed the clear. 751 is the clear we use along with an air dry clear HPC21. The dude dialed my guns in and I must say this clea is SWEEEEET. We went back and forth with coors Autowave and AWX and AWX was mint 59 out of 63 cars and Autowave i had to call for 3 field formulas and they changed some toners on my mixing bank. Sikkenz had 4 guys in our shop and Sherwin had 1 sales guy and the tech. AWX is very easy to spray and as long as you understand the product I think you will be happy. And keep this in mind we dont price things out per can or sprayable oz. We calculate applied cost meaning what was used on the car. Sherwin is cheaper everytime. Have your painter mix accordingly on the scale avoiding over mixing and everything will be good. That was our success story, We are currently 6 months in and to this day i am still happy. and I was a and 8 year Sikkenz oainter and I gave them plenty of oppurtunities to make good. If awx isnt working in other locations i have to say its more to it than just product. Thats just my 2 cents. Hope this was helpfull. You can inbox me if you have any other questions I can answer the best i can.