Zach
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Its the painter and I and the little help the 3rd guy is, against 5 body guys and they cant keep us busy. But the service manager at our dealership is trying to step in and run it like a service department and cram more guys in there. back when we had 3 good A techs they complete way more work than the 5 techs we have now. the shop isnt big enough and we spend more time moving crap around than actually working. we only have one paint booth thus far, second to come spring time supposedly, I don’t see it reasonable to have 2 painters in one booth. my thought on it is if I feed him consistently we should be even on pay scale 50% of hours and pretty dang close in wage. the painter I work with has it made there and wont give anything up and I don’t blame him because I would do the same thing.
I have sprayed my own shit and a couple jobs only spraying once every couple of months doesnt give me the confidence to get hired as a painter else were… the painter makes 5 dollars an hour over my pay. I have spoke to the managers they cant do anything as for as a high percentage for me because we have to cover the other kid. I said fire him their response was okay but the day you or the painter call out and there is only one of you in the paint shop that day we are hiring a third person back in here. its a dealership a lot of stupid b.s….at this point as I once herd some one say the grass isnt always greener but at least it is a change of scenery.
Stone- This trade is more of a hobby in the end. my wife is in nursing school when she finishes she will come out making more than I, at that time I quit and finish my degree and never look back, but until that point this has to pay my bills. Funny thing you are not the first by far to tell me this haha.
and as far as what the painter does, I have the car masked and just needs to be bagged and sprayed. he helps me bag from time to time. rest is I.:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :chairIt came about because the other prepper is not completely accounted for. But we don’t have the work nor does he pull his weight. Painter automatically gets 50% of paint time the other 50 is for prep. If I say push him out the door they want someone else in there. I dunno. Thinking, go flat rate job for job and pay me for the jobs he does and him for his job. lets see who comes out on top.
(Stone)-good call I do need to calm down just aggravated, puts my entire financial status in a huge bind.Yup Burt told us that this stuff is trucked from out west somewhere for get the location in a not temp controlled truck. there for messing with them. another issue we have with them is by the time we get the stock it is already out of date. shelf life 2 years or so (they are talking about shortening it) yea the splash back I have gotten before not a huge deal dust back over it lightly to an extent obviously. could of been our air lines to they like to act up from time to time (compressor) but the boss doesn’t believe we have an issue. either way glad to hear we are not the only ones seeing these issues. the dupont reps will never admit we are correct and swear it works perfect for everyone else.
Yes we have narrowed it down to WB06 and a couple pearls (reds the wb1001, couple more forget though). for a while it was WB01 causing a lot of problems. Our rep brought a guy named Burt out supposedly the leader/creator or what have you of this product. they examined our products and sent us a bunch of new tints. they ended up adjusting the formula of the WB01 and its been better. 2 weeks ago I painted an audi and the base coat fish eyed every were. agian believed to be WB06. As far as it being in the blends or base coat its in the base coat. this stuff in the blends however likes to leave over spray that doesn’t tack of leaving a rougher than desired also.
Coleman Collision Center, Its also a GM dealership
Sorry to change the subject..just browsing through and seem as though a lot of you guys use water…We are using Dupont Chromax Pro water. Any of you guys have dirt problems in the base coat? We mix it and then strain it through 4 strainers total 2(125 micron) and 2(190 micron) and still have dirt when spraying it. O yea and on top of that the PPS cup has a 125 micron strainer built in. Some jobs you have to lay the clear on so heavy as to just bury the dirt and well don’t really like to do that.